Making of : Top Gear Saab tribute

Saab Owners Club of Great Britain published a couple of pictures from the shooting of the recent Top Gear episode. It's great, that the makers of such an influential documentary series about cars decided to make a tribute about Saab. Respect for this decision. In general the response from the journalist community to the recent Saab drama is either quiet or just copying news. A real opinion, good or bad is a rarity. With a few exceptions such as Top Gear.

Saab 92B in making of Top Gear Season 18 Episode 5 about Saab

Wonderful Saab 9000 Aero in making of Top Gear Season 18 Episode 5 about Saab

Making of Top Gear Season 18 Episode 5 about Saab : the poor destroyed 900 and 9-5 MY2011

Maybe one day also some local TV shows (Czech Republic, Slovakia, wherever close) will find out, that there is (was ?) some Saab which helped to create the automotive history and will shoot some at least small documentary.

More photos are published at the SOCGB website. If you would like to see the Top Gear episode, click here.

Photos used with kind approval of Saab Owners Club GB. Thank you.

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Brightwell Holdings withdraws the bid for Saab

Brightwell Holdings, the turkish investment group, decided to step out of the battle of Saab. According to Zamier Ahmed, the leader of the bidding team, the reason is GM and its denial to cooperate.

Brightwell was one of the interested parties in buying Saab as the whole package and continue to develop and produce Saab cars. Their intention was to negotiate conditions under which they can use GMs patents used in 9-5, 9-4X and 9-3. These negotiations failed.

GMs standpoint to this is clean for several months. They don't intend to provide the IP rights to nobody.

But they are business men as well and for them most things have their price. Who knows what set-up Brightwell offered them. Maybe it wasn't enough.

Brightwell on the other hand says that GM wants to eliminate Saab. A competitor less would be good for them, especially when using the same platform. But Saab doesn't produce for nearly a year and it's former marketshare on the worldwide market of 1-2% cannot be a threat. It would be similar as if Shell would fight against a local family gas station on the corner. It does happen but not in such a direct way. But the local gas station can become a chain after a while. In some sick way, this is also a signal, that Saab still has potential to ressurect and grow, otherwise GM wouldn't loose time and resources on this.

But there could be another situation. For example both Youngman and Mahindra & Mahinda have interest to buy Saab, produce and have access to the important asian markets, China and India. And much better funded as Spyker. If they don't agree with GM, they could try the game on their own. Start with 9-3, than PhoeniX and continue. That would mean the local gas station would grow. For GM that would mean negotiations. Maybe not if they are arrogant enough.


In any cases less fighter in the battle of Trollhattan. Less competition in the bids but also less parties interested in continuing of the production of Saab and more probability of selling of Saab in pieces.

It is somehow quiet now. It can mean quiet before the storm.

Source : Saabsunited

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Saab in the recent Top Gear

Yesterday was the next episode of Top Gear - Top Gear Season 18 Episode 5 - where Saab was featured. Cars belong to the Saab Owners Club of Great Britain. If you couldn't see it, here is the video for it.

You have to click on the Segment 5 and than scroll to 1:20 min.



Edit : another possibility to watch the Saab part of the Top Gear episode on youtube appeared HERE.

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Experience with Volvo XC70 D5 AWD

Yes, this is a Saab related blog, but I like cars in general, so to get a chance to drive a Volvo XC70 and not to write a review with it would be, at least in my eyes, a pity. So the next lines are about how a Saab driver feels in a Volvo crossover. No comparison, well, maybe a little bit.

First some data. It's a XC70 D5 AWD built in 2008. Engine : 2.4 turbodiesel with 185 HP / 400 Nm. Acceleration 0-100 : 9.9s, average fuel consumption 8.3 l/100km (on paper), 8.5 with me in the reality. It has 125.000km. Manual transmission.

I've got it for a while as a company car after someone and have it for nearly a month now. After 3.000 km driven the car started to show it's character. There are upsides as well as downsides. 

Volvo XC70

Volvo XC70

Nice colour isn't it ? Of course it is a question of personal taste. According to DuPonts car color popularity index, the red color was last year on the 6th place in Europe and 5th place worldwide. However exatly this facelift looks too plastic for me. As if Volvo would recognise that, the later facelifts are a bit more smoother designed.

As always with company cars, there is a limited budget and several conditions. I don't how it was 3 years ago, but this car was configured with the philosophy : the strongest diesel available plus four-wheel-drive and a very few extras. Besides the standard there is a tempomat (or was it standard ?), bluetooth system and that's it. It's a good approach, but for someone used on whatever Saab Aero and things like dimming mirror or automatic wipers, some things must be done manually. Well, no problem with that.

Roof detail

It is a mix between a ship and a tractor. It flows on the road in the good meaning. The a bit higher sitting in the crossover gives to it not much more overview on the road, it's just the feeling. The car is loud. Much louder than petrol engines. Therefore the tractor feeling. The 125.000 km are playing definitely a role here.

 In the city traffic it is by far not a sprinter, but also not lazy, somewhere in between. However it drinks 10.5 litres in the city. That is for a diesel too much, even with the 1721 kg empty weight. The problem comes with parking, it costs time to get used to park a tractor and get the edges of the car into the eyes. Therefore for people considering this car, parking assistant is very recommended.

On the highway it is again a ship. It easily comes to the 130-140 kmh local allowed speeds. The 400 Nm is enough for accelerating to 160 - 170 without any problems. The aerodynamic noises are not unusual loud, just the engine.

In the curves it behaves as one would expect from this kind of car. Only one thing, on the snow when it switched the rear wheels and became AWD (Haldex), my head started to twirl. Strange feeling. Other people in the car had the same feeling. But after I've got used to it, it dissapeared.

Interior

Plenty of space inside and very large trunk. For me, these new generations of Volvo (incl. the current one) started to be somehow "cold". This is a standard interior, the more aluminium stuff, the colder. Something is strange here. When you look at the upper part of the dashboard, there is a try for minimalism. Fine. But than the part with radio and buttons comes and kills the nice minimalistic try immediately. As if two people would design it. I had a previous generation of S60, it had much more homogeneous interior.

Detail

This is a car for people which understand the car as a tool bringing them from point A to point B, while the point B can be somewhere in a light terrain. Very very good snow performance. The holes in the streets are not to feel. Driving this XC70 requires also a bit more physical power than the Saab. It has a bit harder characteristic, the steering wheel goes harder, the pedals as well as the transmission. It doesn't go softer in higher speeds. My former Volvos were the same, so no surprises here.

Tachometer

I would expect a bit more for the 40-45.000 € price of a new one in this configuration but it is still a very fine car. It's safe, it flows nicely, it's a good choice for the family, it brings you also to places with only bad roads, where I never would go with my Saab. However it is not a car to which I could develop a "relationsship" as I had to my V40, S60 and later the Saab 9-3 Aero.

Click for car specs.

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Spring is coming, roof down.

Not even two weeks ago the temperatures were -15°C, sometimes colder and outside the cities the traffic situation due to snow was critical. The winter has shown us how it should be and faded away. Spring is coming.

With todays sunny weather first motorbikes showed outside and for convertible drivers this means roof down. In average 13°C and maybe even more (max 16°C) was definitely a reason to try. It's still not summer comfortable but first signs are here. Also our cats started to loose hair a bit, another sign.

First signs of spring are coming

From the nature point of view it's too soon. The spring equinox is on 21.3., so in a month. I remember my grandfather telling me, that summer and winter are getting longer at the expense of spring and autumn. So if winter ends now in february and spring will be short, we can expect hotter weather soon. Is it good for nature ? Not really. But a weekend of joy from the sun helps the soul :)

First real roof down in 2012

At the Danube river side channel

We went to the Danube river to look how the nature recovers from the unusual colds. Some of the migratory birds are back and the nature has started to "boot up". The frost wasn't long enough to freeze the river, but pieces of ice, large like a car, were floating all the time and the ship traffic was stopped for a while. Now there is rest of the ice of the bank, melting with every sun ray.

Danube channel

Danube main stream

The ice is melting ...

My break discs are fading away, so there is time to order new ones. 314 mm is the size. Coming soon. But the nearly 90.000 kilometers on my Saab reminded me, that besides the standard maintenance no special or unusual failures occured. Which is great. Recently I've met someone with the same Saab (without Hirsch) with 150.000 km and still nothing. I'm satisfied with the Saab.

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Independence Edition as the last Saab of the current era

Exactly a year ago (23.2.2011) I was proud to publish first pictures of the Saab Independence Edition. Proud because it's great and even prouder because it's a convertible. Convertibles from Saab rocks !

Who could think about, that exactly after 365 days Saab could be in a clinical death situation where bankruptcy administrators are selling it and hopely fighting for to sell it as a whole to a serious bidder, who has an honest will to ressurect the automaker in restarting the production. Yes, some predicted this. But many of us survived extremely critical situations and sometimes miracles happen. Let it be this time again.

The Saab Convertible Independence Edition was an idea to built a limited amount of vehicles, numbered limited editions each year of the independence of GM. Starting with 365 cars + years of the independence. This edition was 366 and in special orange colour.

Yesterday the last Saab, an Independence Edition was completed at ANA Trollhattan. Sad.

It is Aero based on the latest facelift. Engines were a petrol 2.0 liter (220 hp),  a turbodiesel 1.9 liter (180 hp) and a Biopower version for petrol or E85. This last edition was a 1.9 TTiD. There were some special details incorporated. You can read the specification here.

In total 47 convertibles were build. This will be a collectible for sure. All are owned by ANA and the remaining are for sure for sale. If not sold already. There were through the last months some to find on autoscout24 and mobile.de but dissapeared.

If you want one of them, you can contact ANA. Omg, if I could buy one now ...

I've tried to find some pictures with high resolution, so after the click you can see them :

Saab Convertible Independence Edition Front

Saab Convertible Independence Edition Rear

Saab Convertible Independence Edition Interior

Carbon fibre dashboard detail

Numbering detail

The great 18" wheels with satin chrome/black finish

The wheels once again

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Pinterest

There is a social network called Pinterest which seems to get more and more attention. It's a virtual pinboard for sharing nice things. It is much more about pictures than about text. Easy to use and very fresh looking. Worth trying. With a small warning - you can get addictive of it as from any other social network.

Here is a screenshot of a search for Saab car. There started to appear nice and not only retro pictures. In a time you will probably get better results ase google image search, because there is a human element involved in the selection.
 

Pinterest Saab car search 22.2.2012

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Saab History - 1947-2003

The hungarian Saab club made in 2003 a wonderful video about Saab history. It's a 52 minute journey through Saab with many (at least for me) new video sequences. Also the music is chosen with taste.

In the message below you will probably get a youtube message, that you should watch it on youtube. It doesn't matter where you look at it, it is the 50 minutes of your time definitely worth.

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Mergers and acquisitions

Saab crash test

On the press-conference today the administrators again confirmed 6-7 serious interested parties in buying Saab and continue to develop and produce Saabs in Trollhattan. One of them should be a European car manufacturer. There are rumours who it is, but nothing is confirmed yet.

Even if no name was revealed, it made a smile on my face. Why ? Because there is a chance, that Saab will belong to someone able to keep it alive, bring to profit and maybe ressurect the name Saab in the public. Outside of the fanbase.

The acquisition of a company is just a start. The main circus begins afterwards. It's called post merger integration and it failed too often in the past. Not only in the automotive industry, but overall.

It is a known fact, that less than a the success rate of such a company acquisitions is lower as one could expect. It ranges from 45%, through 30% to an alarming 10%. Under success is meant reaching the planned targets, mainly increase of revenue and marketshare. Not reaching them can have ugly consequences.

An interesting study from Deloitte based on the largest post-merger integration database  is naming the risks which can cause such failures. There are land mines everywhere. In the possible insufficient due diligence and not accurate finance fugures. In complicated merge of fundamentally different structured organisations. In problems connected with people alignment and management. Or in the failure of the merger project itself due to lack of experience.

Despite of the cultural shock of the employees. After a personal experience with this I voluntarily left my very fine job after such an acquisition. 

So if the administrators of Saab are don't want to see Saab in clinical death again in two years, the winner of the battle of Trollhattan must not only have a lot of cash but also be experienced in acquisitions and integrations afterwards. Is this the case o f the named interesting parties ?



Youngman produces MAN trucks, Neoplan Busses and personal vehicles co-developed by Lotus. Everything mainly in China, not Europe or United States. Brightwell Holdings are investors, which is not the same as a company acquires another company. And they are not in the automotive industry, at least not known. As the opposite Mahindra & Mahindra is an automaker with a large product range and cooperations with foreign companies, for example Renault. However they were never through an acquisition of such a special company like Saab.

And than comes the message of an interested european car manufacturer. Nearly every large european car company has been through at least one industrial marriage or overtake. If the rumours about that the company is german would be true, than all major german brands have very intensive experience with it.

One thing is to have money for buying Saab, second thing is to fit it into its product strategy and third thing is to have experience with continuity of the business. These three things fulfills only one "known" interested party.

And that is the european manufacturer.



More informations about the recent press conference : Save Saab Museum blog | Saabsunited |  Saabblog.

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SVD : Decision likely in ten days

Youngman

Probably the most known and loudest interested company in buying Saab is the chinese company Youngman. The swedish newspaper svd.se brought an interview with the owner Pang Qingnian. One of the richest man in China speaks a lot about himself and about the history of Youngman, but of course there were statements about roots of interest in Saab as well as future plans if he can buy the struggling swedish carmaker.

In the automotive industry Youngman produces Neoplan busses, MAN trucks and developing it's personal vehicles division together in assembling Lotus Cars (the british manufacturer) and in several agreements and acquisition with Proton.

Pang Qingnian wants to buy Saab for two main reasons. The first is the brand, new technology and safety. The second is based on the market trends in China which more than tripled car sales between 2005-2010 and now slows down, namely the sale of luxury cars from the West increases while the market with smaller and cheaper cars falls down. Let's hope, he thinks also about the rest of the world.

Plus, the PhoeniX platform still needs 2 years of development until real cars can be produced.

Therefore he aims at 9-4X and 9-5, where GM, the owner of the IP-rights, already said no. Several times. Ehm. What means this ? Than 9-1, 9-6 and 9-7, he continues.





He also explains, that the current 9-3 could be build without GMs control, which would mean an diesel and automatic transmission 9-3 only and three months to replace the body parts patented by GM. This is what the customers want - diesel + automat, but this also means no car for drivers pleasure. It's exactly the opposite - petrol and manual transmission.

Pang Qingnian didn't revealed his bid to the Saab administrators. There are sources claiming around 2 billion SEK (221 M EUR). He claims to be ready to invest 12 billion SEK (around 1.35 billion EUR) in the development of Saab in the near future. And he promises the production and development of Saab would remain in Trollhattan for at least five years.

End of the Saab drama soon ?

There are many hurdles to overcome. One is, that former employees of Saab are searching and finding new jobs and most of them are not rehirable back. "Time is short", he comments. Another hurdle is close to zero marketshare of Saab in China, which he wants to bring to a reasonable number with massive investments in sales and marketing.

He also speak about positive signals from NDRC, which has to approve the possible deal on the chinese side.

The german blog Saabblog.net, from where the initial information comes, comments, that there are two favorite players in this battle, one from china and one from India. Brightwell seems to brake a bit and there is a possibility of combination of bidders.

It seems that the decision is close. But I've had this feeling many times in the last 16 months. Let's hope, this is finally "the" thing and it is a positive one.

sources : saabblog.net | svd.se

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Music for Cabriolets : Little Roy - Come As You Are

This is a nice cover of Nirvana on a reggae style. Just a thing for slow driving with good vibe.

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Classic 900'n'boat

A classic Saab 900 towing a boat ? Well, not really. Just a friend from our Saab club parked closely a boat on a trailer in the city. After the parking lot in front of the boat on trailer was free, he was running to park the Saab "on the right place" because of getting this picture :

Saab C900 and boat

Time and place : spring / summer 2011, Bratislava, Slovakia, close to a park called Medická záhrada.

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Saab news from 1960

A link to a very nice retro news film from the 60's came appeared in some of the forums. It's called Aktuellt om Saab (1960) and is in swedish. You can find the original here.

It has ~16 minutes and a first part is about the aviation part of Saab. For those interested in the cars, it seems, that someone cutted out the corresponding part and uploaded to youtube.

It's a wonderful piece of industrial history, about producing and testing of Saab 96. At that time Saab produced 30.000 cars per year. What we would give now for that production number ...

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More questions than answers at the moment

Frozen cabrio, frozen Saab. Forever ?

There was another regular Tuesdays press-conference held by the administrators. The number of interested parties in buying Saab or its parts increased from five to six or seven. Already known parties are : Youngman, Brightwell Developments, Mahindra & Mahindra, BAIC with Panasonic. Speculated parties are : Volvo and an unknown european vendor, Saab AB and some other consortium. The first three parties claim interest in Saab as a whole package, the others are unknown. The rumours about BMW are not confirmed.

GM, through it's speaker James Caine acclaimed, that they are not in discussions with any of the interested parties. This is in strong contradiction with interviews with Brightwell Holdings saying the exact opposite, namely, that they negotiate with GM about IP rights of 9-5 and 9-4X.

BAIC rattled with their weapons and showed their new electric Saab, based on IP rights to 9-3 and old 9-5 with BAIC logo. The IP was sold by GM short before selling Saab to Spyker. Unclear remains what kind of agreement about the 9-3 is in place. Indications say about "old" 9-3, however we don't know what it means. Pre-2010 ?

Most of the bids for Saab are indicative, not binding.

Also it remains open what stayed of Saab for sale. Some of the buildings are sold, people with know-how are gone, some have new jobs. IP rights are just a few there. There will come surprises for sure. Still in hope for positive

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The Saab fellowship

In many countries Saab drivers greet each other on the road. They blink, they wave, sometimes they drive together for a while. The less Saabs in the country, the more the habit. It's visible all the time.

There are not many brands, where the drivers are doing this. Sometimes Hondas or older BMWs. Not too many others. The reason is commoditisation of many things incl. cars which let this nice habit slowly fade away. It's a pity.

Have you seen the Saab versus advertisement campaign ? I like it a lot. Therefore I've tried to do my own version of it. Not so clean, not so professional but still authentic. The photo is from a convoy in summer 2011 to a large Saab event in the Czech Republic (Roudnice). Taken by Kerim from saabundergound.cz. The black convertible is mine. It was an 8 cars convoy to Prague, where another 30-40 cars were regrouping. On the event itself around 200 cars were present. You can read more here.

Hopefully i didn't broke any copyrights or something like that, it wasn't my intention. I hope you like it.

Saab vs. Fellowship

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Saab enamel mug

I've found in the streets of Amsterdam an interesting shop selling enamel things. They look a bit vintage and has a potential with the time to get even more old feeling. I've bought a Saab mug, but in the shop were also thermometers and other stuff. Not cheap but unique.

The shop is called Emaille.nl, they have a webshop as well. I've seen there 2 sizes of Saab thermometers. They are not in the shoplist at the moment but if someone is keen to get them, an e-mail to Emaille is worth a try.

My mug (was the last in the stock at that day) :

Saab enamel mug

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A Saab in the recent The Big Bang Theory

In the recent part of The Big Bang Theory series one of the main characters Leonard drives a Saab. It is an american version of  9-5 sedan from years 2004 - 2005. Like this one.

Saab in The Big Bang Theory

source

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How to prevent microsleeps on long drives ?

Saab 9000 interior

Many of us knows the sleepy feeling after several hours of driving and everybody knows that microsleeps can kill. According to studies up to 20% and more all car accidents are caused by driver fatigue or microsleeps.

During a microsleep a driver completely stops to perceive the ambient plus after the fear after waking up while driving can cause wrong reactions with fatal consequences.

The investigations for such crashes often reports no marks after hard breaking, strange reactions in front of clear and visible obstacles or driving to other lanes without any visible reason.

I had such an experience. Several years ago after ~1800 km and several hours of tiring meetings I woke up  in the emergency lane of a highway in 130 km/h. I had luck, nothing happened, I had to rest for longer time. This "adventure" teached me to be extremely cautious on the road.

Reasons for microsleeps :
There are various reasons and combinations of them. Insufficient sleeping before the drive. Too much heating in the cabin. A long night drive and fight against biorythms, most sleepiness comes between 2 - 5 a.m. and 3 - 4 p.m.. Boring highway drive, all the time the same ambient. Too much eating before or during the drive (look at postprandial somnolence). Too many energy drinks, they can cause opposite effect, if they are too many.

Some example what can happen are shown in this video. There are several vehicle manufacturer independent warning systems (non-commercial example is here), but not all of us have them and to completely rely on them isn't too healthy as well.

So how to prevent microsleeps ?




How to prevent microsleeps :
Someone asked in a closed forum, what people do to stay awake in the long drives. Here is an extract from useful answers :

• if you can, drive through the day
• plan ahead, try to avoid traffic peaks around cities
• every 2.5 - 3 hours stop a bit of physical activity, which increases blood circulation
• to be not hungry and not sated, somewhere in between
• dont eat too much and heavy food, better light food and more often
• eat some sugar if possible, in chocolate or so
• eat fruits for fast sugar
• sometimes let cold air into the car, it wakes up, make draught
• drink a lot of water, coffee or energy drinks later, when it starts to be long
• listen to music, sometimes loud and with faster tempo
• listen to audiobooks or radio with spoken word
• don't drive boring slow, do not speed, but drive "fresh" or change "heartbeat" of your driving
• have a camera with you, if a good target for a picture comes, photograph it
• surf on the radio stations
• speak with the others in the cabin, but if it makes you tired, tell them to be quiet

Besided of this, my experience says, the older I am, the more sleepy I am getting. It's a completely different feeling, when I drove in age between 20-30 years and now around 40. 

If you have other recipes against to get tired on the road and to prevent microsleeps, the comment section is for you.

Happy saabing.

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Mahindra may loose interest to takeover Saab because of GM

One of the interested parties Mahindra & Mahindra recently speaks about possible withdrawing of their proposal for taking over Saab. The reason is GMs stubborn resistance and active effort in prevention of the Saab rebirth.

It is not a surprise, that GM will not license their IP of the current models 9-4X and 9-5 to anyone. The IP for 9-3 stayed open and there are reportedly ways to build 9-3s without GM. These are the challenges which a possible new owner of Saab would face. One can understand GM's standpoint, they own the IP, but to not license it means, that GM see Saabs possible reincarnation as a threat. The other, much simpler motivation would be, that GM wants burry another proof of their incompetence.

There are two different scenarios ahead for the Saab administrators. The first is to sell it as a whole (Youngman, Brightwell Holdings, Mahinda & Mahindra ...) or to sell it in pieces (Volvo, BAIC, e-car consortium ...). If Saab will be sold in pieces, this means the end. So this would be also the target of GM.

DI.se also writes, that all the proposals for Saab now are indicative only. Let's wait if this is true or not.

... and yes, let's hope, these are rumours only ...


Sources : di.se | expressen.se

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Saab Nine Two enthusiasts study

I've found a wonderful design coming from the pen (computer) of a Saab enthusiast Carl Fredrik Holtermann. This is a piece of art made from heart. Another great example of careful mix of the classic shapes together with modern look.

Saab 9-2 study

Respect Carl Fredrik !

You can also look at another 92 study called Saab Sixten.

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Vintage

Retro

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Roof boxes and Saabs

There is a roof box specialist in Sweden called Takboxspecialisten. They do roof boxes and simillar things for many cars but have a gallery with Saabs with roofboxes.

Some examples :

You can look at the whole gallery here.

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Wordle Saab

Wordle is a tool creating "word clouds" from texts or websites or blogs with RSS feeds. It scans a text or feed and creates pictures from words highlighted according to frequency of use and most probably other things. It is not new, but still very fresh looking and capable of creating very nice pictures. Carefully selected fonts and color combinations. The author Jonathan Feinberg placed a lot of work in it.

So I've tried to wordle a bit on Saab's websites and the large fansites and blogs i know and have some nice wordles for you.

Wordle from Saab facebook fan page

This is Saabs official facebook fan page. Fine, that it works with Wordle.

RSS feed from Saab.com

This is the RSS news feed from the international version of Saab.com. The Saab.com itself is in flash, but it provides a link to rss.

Saabsunited.com

This is Saabsunited.com. A bit less words, but it depoends heavily on the configuration of the feed. Simple and to the point :)

Saabblog.net

Saabblog.net, the german fansite looks completely different.

Wordle of Saabworld.net

RSS feed of Saabworld.net.

Wordle from Saabism.blogspot.com

... and my little Saabism.

I preferred the black background but you can configure a lot by yourself in the Wordle.

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Radar

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Saab Museum Trollhattan pictures part #3

Many visitors are coming to my blog through the Saab Museum Trollhattan pictures part #1 and part #2. These pictures were uploaded when the blogger engine didn't had the default photo galleries, so they are not in higher resolutions.

Therefore here is part #3 of the Saab Museum pictures. Some are the same, some are new. All of them clickable.

Saab Museum Trollhattan, Oct. 2011

Turbo Wheel on Saab Aero X concept

 Saab 93-X concept

Saab 93-X concept interior

Wonderful retro babies

Saab 900 Convertible with targa roof prototype

Saab Museum Trollhattan, Oct. 2011

Saab 92, MY 1950 - 1952

Saab 900 x 2

Saab 900 Convertible interior

Saab Museum Trollhattan, Oct. 2011

Ursaab

You can also look at part#1, part #2 and part #4.

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